The public sentiment regarding the COVID-19 resurgence, driven by new variants like JN.1, is mixed but slightly negative. There is skepticism about the origins of the virus and the effectiveness of public health responses. The discourse includes frustration over misinformation and conspiracy theories, alongside a call for continued vaccination and health precautions. People share personal COVID-19 experiences, citing symptoms and vaccinations, and express weariness and anxiety over the ongoing pandemic and potential new waves.

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Now, consider as an example of the published work on SARS-COV viruses;
Menachery, V., Yount, B., Debbink, K. et al. "A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence" Nat Med 21, 1508–1513 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1038/nm.3985

This was basically research from American universities. The lead authors are all Americans, mostly Chapel Hill, NC. Others at Harvard.

There is also Antonio Lanzavecchia; Institute for Research in Biomedicine, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology, Zurich, Switzerland.

The two laboratory directors were Zhengli-Li Shi (Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology) &amp; Ralph S Baric (Chapel Hill). They get to be the last "authors" because they are the bosses.

Zivot is assuming that international research teams engineered human pathogens. Menachery et al 2015 is a case example for “ "A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses.” They studied cross-overs to mice that suggested that similar events could happen in the wild, and indirectly from bats to humans.

The two prior corona virus threats had done this exact thing.

The entire point of the research was how to anticipate, and avoid the F*k-up we are in now.

Dr_GS_Hurd

"\[Bret\] Weinstein has been criticized for making false statements about [COVID-19 treatments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_and_management_of_COVID-19) and vaccines, and for spreading [misinformation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism) about [HIV/AIDS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS)." if you're into conspiracy or alt theories, youll enjoy his nonsense [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret\_Weinstein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Weinstein)

bzbub2

The consensus is that it came from the wet market and was not related to the lab at all.  There are several independent lines of evidence that back this up.  Here's a recent segment from This Week in Virology on the topic, going through it in detail.

https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-how-the-pandemic-began/

atomfullerene

There was no "Wuhan Lab Leak."

There is paranoid fantasy.

Here is the professional science;

Andersen, K.G., Rambaut, A., Lipkin, W.I., Holmes, E.C. and Garry, R.F., 2020. The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2. Nature medicine, 26(4), pp.450-452.

    "Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus." And, "However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone."

*Worobey, Michael
“Dissecting the early COVID-19 cases in Wuhan”
Science Magazine, 18 Nov 2021, Vol 374, Issue 6572 pp. 1202-1204
Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 virus history (not engineered, not from a lab)

Holmes, E.C., Andersen, K.G., Rambaut, A. and Garry, R.F., 2021. Spike protein sequences of Cambodian, Thai and Japanese bat sarbecoviruses provide insights into the natural evolution of the Receptor Binding Domain and S1/S2 cleavage site. Viralogical 621(840), pp.82-6.

    Conclusions: "Newly sequenced sarbecoviruses from bats captured in Cambodia, Thailand and Japan possess different combinations of spike motifs in the RBD and the S1/S2 junction that were first described in SARS-CoV-2. These observations are consistent with the natural origin of SARS-CoV-2 and strongly inconsistent with a laboratory origin. Studies of coronavirus diversity in bats and other species must continue."

Washington, N.L., Gangavarapu, K., Zeller, M., Bolze, A., Cirulli, E.T., Barrett, K.M.S., Larsen, B.B., Anderson, C., White, S., Cassens, T. and Jacobs, S., 2021. Emergence and rapid transmission of SARS-CoV-2 B. 1.1. 7 in the United States. Cell, 184(10), pp.2587-2594.

The Beta variant original mutations in UK, and predicted to become dominant by March, 2021. It turned out to have been first India, and then to the UK. The most critical quote, "We revealed several independent introductions of B.1.1.7 into the US as early as late November 2020, with community transmission spreading it to most states within months. We show that the US is on a similar trajectory as other countries where B.1.1.7 became dominant, requiring immediate and decisive action to minimize COVID-19 morbidity and mortality.

Holmes, E.C., Goldstein, S.A., Rasmussen, A.L., Robertson, D.L., Crits-Christoph, A., Wertheim, J.O., Anthony, S.J., Barclay, W.S., Boni, M.F., Doherty, P.C. and Farrar, J., 2021. The origins of SARS-CoV-2: A critical review. Cell, 184(19), pp.4848-4856.

    "There is no epidemiological link to any other locality in Wuhan, including the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) located south of the Yangtze and the subject of considerable speculation." "There is currently no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 has a laboratory origin. There is no evidence that any early cases had any connection to the WIV, in contrast to the clear epidemiological inks to animal markets in Wuhan, nor evidence that the WIV possessed or worked on a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 prior to the pandemic." 

Amy Maxmen
"Wuhan market was epicenter of pandemic’s start, studies suggest"
NATURE NEWS, 27 February 2022

Worobey, M., Levy, J.I., Malpica Serrano, L., Crits-Christoph, A., Pekar, J.E., Goldstein, S.A., Rasmussen, A.L., Kraemer, M.U., Newman, C., Koopmans, M.P. and Suchard, M.A., 2022. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. Science, 377(6609), pp.951-959.

“Spatial analyses within the market show that SARS-CoV-2–positive environmental samples, including cages, carts, and freezers, were associated with activities concentrated in the southwest corner of the market.“



That is actually **bad news**. A lab leak is fixable. A natural occurrence is very very bad and is not fixable.

Finally, "gain of function" practice is a necessary step in the development of vaccines for potentially dangerous viruses. The needed expertise is demonstrated in the tremendous effort used to publish the SARS-COV-2 RNA sequence is just months after the first clinical cases. 

See; Lu, R., Zhao, X., Li, J., Niu, P., Yang, B., Wu, H., Wang, W., Song, H., Huang, B., Zhu, N. and Bi, Y., 2020. Genomic characterisation and epidemiology of 2019 novel coronavirus: implications for virus origins and receptor binding. The Lancet, 395(10224), pp.565-574. Feb 22;395(10224):565-574. Epub 2020 Jan 30.
doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30251-8.

Again, Menachery et al 2015 is perfect case example of the research Dr. Fauci helped encourage to study, "A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses.” They studied cross-overs to mice that suggested that similar events could happen in the wild, and indirectly from bats to humans.

This is falsely called "gain of function."

It's an uncomfortable hypothesis that has lots of politics in the way because many in the field wish it wasn't an accident.   I see a lot of bad papers linked in this thread.   

I like Alex Washburne's quote on this that gives a strong hint why we know where it came from....

"We saw over 1,000 years of evolutionary time on the SARS-CoV tree without a single FCS.

Then, 1 year after DEFUSE proposed to insert an FCS in a SARS-CoV in Wuhan, we find a SARS-CoV with an FCS in Wuhan."

quisp1965

Fearmongering designed to stir up political Sinophobia, it originated from a *less than sanitary* wet market, its an accident waiting to happen

Cardemother12

Bret Weinstein is a hack and not to be trusted whatsoever. I am not decided on the issue itself, but that much I know for certain. 

ThatOneGuy4321

US final report consensus: https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/

Aneuday0321

 This news is new, but the resulting conclusion is old,. It needs repeating. 

Nature, 06 December 2024

[Wuhan lab samples hold no close relatives to virus behind COVID](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03982-2?)
Shi Zhengli, the virologist at centre of COVID lab-leak theory, reveals coronavirus sequences from Wuhan institute.

There was no "Wuhan Lab Leak."

That is actually bad news. A lab leak is fixable. A natural occurrence is very very bad and is not fixable.

https://youtu.be/K78jqx9fx2I?si=mVbQLgS7oRZmyvdE

This is a very good listen.

RexRectumIV

Afaik there was a theory it was engineered but escaped the lab by mistake and infected the bats at a nearby market in Wuhan. 

I don't think it was on purpose, research in China is already extremely well funded and researchers have a lot of respect from the chinese society and government, so pulling that kind of stunt on purpose only hurts research centers

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In my experience, illness from COVID is not strain dependent. It varies widely, as it always has, depending on the nature of your exposure and how your own immune system responds to that exposure.

Blake__P

I had migraine, sore throat, dry mouth, burning throat, pink eyes and low in energy for a long period

ThoseeWereTheDays

I had a slightly sore throat day 1. By end of day 2 I had a sore throat, headache, and general feeling unwell with some muscle pain. Day 3 I had nerve pain, cough, sore throat, lost my voice, headache, low grade fever, headache. Day 4 I lost my sense of taste and smell. Still mucking through it now on day 5.

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The new strain started out strange.

Day 1 and 2: A funny feeling in my throat but it wasn't sore. 

Day 3: Post-nasal drip started first, which is unusual even for COVID.

Day 4: Mucus increased. Wet coughs but productive. Low-grade fever 99 to 100.

Day 5 and 6: Fatigue and 102.5 fever. Lasted for two hours. 

Day 7: Fever subsided. Temperature went back to normal. Loss of smell and partial taste.

Day 8: Loss of smell continued but gradually comes back

Day 9: Wet cough returns along with stuffy nose. Smell is much better.

Day 10: Sense of smell came back. Post nasal drip is causing wet cough. 

Day 11 - 14: Mucus is dissipating. Post nasal drip is less frequent. Smell is about 100 percent. Little to no fatigue.

ObligationAsleep938

It started two days after exposure with sore throat and minor cough (day 0) day 1-3 sore legs, fever, minor cough. Day4-8 tiredness no cough no fever, day 9-10 no symptoms. Negative on day 10. Worst part was isolating.

eliezther666

Mine started with what seemed like allergies.  Scratchy sore throat and tearing eyes.  Next few days body aches and fever,cough started.  Ended up in hospital for 3nights and am still dealing with issues 2 months later.  The best advice I have is to REST as much as possible.

Volmom2

I tested positive 7 days ago. 

The day before I tested positive I had a scratchy throat. 

The day I tested positive, I went into work, thinking I maybe had allergies. By midday, I had chills, glassy eyes and sore/scratchy throat. I went home, tested and it was positive. 

Day 2 I had a low grade fever that I caught with Tylenol, major headache and chills. Congestion was meh. Nausea was crazy but also had my period. 

Day 3 I kept the fever down. Tylenol for the headache and nausea. 

Day 4 I thought I was on the upswing. No headache. No chills. Minor congestion. Usual nausea. I went walking this day because I felt better!!

Day 5 I had excess saliva. So f*cking annoying and very weird. I had post nasal drip. Mucus in throat. Nausea was BAD. Not much congestion. 

Day 6 I had excess saliva. I started spitting into a bottle… yes, it’s gross. Mucus in throat. Congestion was not great. So tired. I went to urgent care and they gave me Zyrtec for congestion and to clear mucus. 

Day 7 (today) I have excess saliva. Spitting into the same thing but a bit less. My muscles are so so tired. I can’t even stand up without feeling nauseous and achey. Congestion is back. My legs are so achey. 

When will this end?!?!

ozzyandcat

Felt unwell, my legs and hands turned purple and i was cold. Then i had a fever at night and everything was clear… 🥴

destineye23

Very similar to what others said.  I am on day 3 and worst part is the body ache and malaise.  No nose issues and a very slight dry cough.  Appetite has been fine, have not lost sense of smell yet?

thatcrazyflorist

Mine started off with a bad sore throat and a fever. Eventually got super duper congested.

Good_Significance871

It always starts off with a really bad sore throat!! This is my third time getting covid. I seem to get it each year—2022, 2023 and now 2024. Tested positive yesterday and the main symptoms for me are: sore throat, runny nose, coughing, fatigue, eye sensitivity and brain fog

Constant-Repair-7060

I just got covid and rsv on Saturday tested on Sunday. Had severe headaches from Saturday night. Chills and fever for 3 days.. I dosed up on melatonin, vit c,d zinc, metformin, hcq, iodine 1% nasal wash and mouth was, following flccc protocol. Things finally better on 4th day.

leechan08

Day 1: face went flush and I felt hot and went to bed at 7pm. Day 2 night: tossed and turned all night. Normally sleep well. Day 3: aches and headache with temp of 102. Day 4: totally normal just tired. Day 5: sneezing coughing runny nose loss of taste. Exhausted.

LowerPainter6777

My acid reflux kicked into ultra high gear and I started feeling *off*.  Then I had some slight congestion and a slightly sore throat.  

Then the sore throat turned into a full on cold.  

That was all within 36 hours, and then in the next 12 hours I went from “feels like a cold” to “wracked with body aches and can’t even think straight” real quick.  

katiecharm

Migraine, scratchy sore throat, coughing, coughing up mucus. My face hurt, still does. Extreme fatigue. No fever, ever. I couldn't smell or taste anything, and that happened day 2. I still get out of breath going one side of the house to the other after 31 days.

Snoo-32071

I started feeling sick at work two Tuesdays ago (October 1), and by the time I went to bed that night felt like I had a fever. Next day I called out of work and a friend dropped off Covid tests, a thermometer and a few other things. I tested positive immediately - making this my first time getting Covid. Fever got up to 105 over the next couple days. My entire body was in pain, which made it difficult to find a comfortable way to rest or sleep. Headaches, fevers, body pains, coughing, congestion, nausea… now almost two weeks later I’m still dealing with pretty heavy congestion and occasional coughing from post nasal drip. The PND also occasionally still makes me vomit. No loss of smell or taste that I’ve noticed.

tattooedcampersam

For me it was like any other fever during the first few days, but the difference was that it caused chest pain and severe muscle pain. For some people the muscle pain is in their lower body, mine was my whole upper body. Had a few headaches, slightly stuffy nose, heart palpitations, numbness and tickling in my limbs on like day 3.

I'm now dealing with long covid, which is a whole other world.

No_Entertainer4358

Mine was like allergies and I thought I had pneumonia. Runny nose, itchy chest and throat and a dry cough. My lungs hurt after my runs like I had bronchitis. Had aches and pains and fatigue and then yellow diahrea for literally only 24 hours and then it went away. 

Unfortunately I didn’t rest and now I’ve got some long covid symptoms so, rest up or you’ll regret it 

Volderon90

Runny nose and tons of sneezing day 1 (I immediately tested) and I was positive. Day 2: runny nose + fever + aches + headaches + sore throat , all worsening rapidly. Took paxlovid the afternoon of day 2. Day 3: more of same but no longer worsening.  Day 4: dramatic improvement. No more fever. Slight productive cough. Strange jabbing pains in my ribs. General exhaustion. Day 5: continued improvement. Still exhausted and stayed in bed. 

Day 6: tested negative. 

Day 7: tested negative 
Day 8: negative 
Day 9: woke up with runny nose and sneezing. Uh oh. Felt like a replay. Took Covid test. Positive AF. Rebound Covid!

Day 10: runny nose + malaise but way less severe than first round. 
Day 11: congestion + fever still less severe than first round.

xtinehlee1

I had almost no respitory symptoms other thsn a blocked ear that caused some positional vertigo. What I did have was 7 days straight of fever, aches and shivers.

EffektieweEffie

Sore throat and mild fever first two days along with chills, fatigue, body aches, and feeling faint. The last few days it’s been just fatigue, muscle aches, occasional nausea, faintness, and ear pressure

YesxxSir

For me, it started out as a scratchy throat, headache, along with swollen, watery eyes. Then I developed body aches, chills, and a cough. My sore throat became more painful/angry red and my neck lymph nodes were extremely swollen. Sore throat/lymph node swelling is now improving. I’m now just tired, keep coughing, and have a slight headache.

Alternativecookie175

For me, mild sore throat, slight achiness/chills, fatigue, headache, slight congestion. I never got a fever, never lost taste/smell. I woke up every morning with a headache and that was my major symptom. I tested positive on a Sunday and negative Thursday &amp; Friday. My case was mild and cleared up pretty quickly, thankfully. I have no lingering issues.

Zelda_T

This is my first time getting it, so I can't compare to other strains, but I knew it was covid based on the severity of my sore throat. Like swallowing glass. I tested negative on Monday but just retested twice today, and I'm positive. Aside from the sore throat, I'm fatigued and achey. Have post nasal drip so I must be congested but don't feel like it.  Maybe a low grade fever, but I've been taking tyelnol every 6 hours, so hard to say.

huskyfluffy

This is my third time with COVID,  like clockwork I get it around this time of year, and for some reason this strain knocked me on my ass more than the other two did.   My last dance with COVID  2 years ago was more of headaches and congestion and mild fever.   This time around??? I started with a tickle in my throat, then a sore throat the following night so bad that it felt like I was swallowing razor blades,  then loss of voice, then day 2 I did a rapid test and it lit up like a Christmas tree two bright red lines, then later on that day  it was 3 cycles of a fever  that lasted well into the middle of the night of 100°F and really bad body aches.    Now I'm on Day 3 and I woke up drenched in sweat which I guess means I'm over the fever phase but the headaches and nasal congestion and coughing are brutal.   Pain relievers are not really helping much.   They help just a tiny bit.  

And I will add, that I'm vaccinated for the first initial vaccine and one booster.  

This strain knocked me on my ass.  I'm currently on Day 3 and my head is pounding.

My husband just had a cough.  That's it.  Nothing else.

cp1976

I have it now and was looking for recent answers. My day one was a severe migraine that I couldn’t get rid of, low fever, I couldn’t stay awake, and severe body aches. My throat has been sore for a couple of weeks but it got worse. That night was the worst. I couldn’t stay asleep but was so tired (and I take sleeping medication to keep me asleep). Day too was the same symptoms but half as bad. I’m on day three and have a headache, runny nose, and sore throat.

Channanigan69

Don’t depend on symptoms. They vary widely, from person to person and infection to infection. One of the tell tale Covid symptoms is loss of taste/smell, but that doesn’t happen for a lot of people. Covid doesn’t have a “feel” so testing is the best way to determine you have it.

Get a PCR at the doctors, confirm with them that it’s a PCR and not a RAT. If it’s a RAT, you can do that at home. If you can’t get a PCR, get a molecular test which you can do at home (lucira, metrix). If you don’t want to do that, get RATs, multiple of them. They are not very sensitive and have a high rate of false negatives. So you should test for 5-7 days into symptoms. In the mean time wear a n95 mask if you leave the house to stop the spread of germs. I’m pasting below tips from Ontario health on how to get the most out of your RAT. Hope you feel better soon.



how to do a throat and nose swab for COVID
1. Don’t drink, eat, chew gum, smoke, or vape for at least 30 min before testing
2. Blow your nose &amp; wash your hands
3. Swab the back of your throat, near your tonsils - as far back as you can go comfortably. Avoid your teeth as much as possible!
4. If swabbing the throat is too difficult, you can swab your inner cheeks, lower gums, and the back of your tongue
5. Swab your nose, inserting the swab straight back until you meet resistance and swab according to test instructions - you can even let it sit in your nose longer to absorb anything
6. Place the swab into the test tube and follow the instructions from there!

CheapSeaweed2112

28 Male vaccinated tested positive for covid. Unable to sleep. Sweating. Lost of appetite. Watery eyes. Congested nostrils. Dry cough. Hallucinating.

Teemosfinest

Vaccinated and tested positive today. Yesterday I woke up with insane chills, headache and body aches &amp; had a 101.5 fever out of nowhere. Was certain it was flu B. Tested this morning and shocked to see I have Covid. Other symptoms: no appetite, abdominal pains, nausea, bad sore throat, very stuffy, no appetite, mild cough. I am trying to stay on top of my fever because it either goes up with  NSAIDS and/or takes an hour for those meds to kick in. Food doesn’t taste great. I am also immunocompromised.

shewantsthedeeecaf

Vaccinated 4x for covid. Had it every year since it first showed up. Tested positive today. 25 years old, healthy otherwise, NYC. 

Started off as an allergy like symptoms last week (post nasal drip, sneezing, light cough, runny nose)—I took antihistamines thinking it was allergies. Antihistamines over the last few days didn’t do anything. 

I developed a fever (102-103) last night with a raging, debilitating headache that’s lingering past any medications I’ve been able to take for it. Other symptoms are muscle weakness, fatigue, loss of appetite.

I’ve had Covid every year but this is by far the worst.

LeastEffectiveKO

Not vaccinated and tested positive for Covid yesterday. Symptoms are fatigue, fever , chills, body aches, headache, cough and sore throat. Started with a sore throat and cough in the beginning of the week, then the fever and other symptoms started on Thursday. I tested negative on Thursday and positive on Friday. I am very beat today been constantly sleeping and barely have enough energy to take my dog potty.

I only have covid one other time (July 2022) and I knew right away I got it again.

Euphoric_Penalty3296

I went to a movie teather the other day... it was fully packed (I wasn't expecting it) and I was wearing a mask but it was a simple fabric one, any risks?

winrix1

Does anyone know of any sources besides FDA that are testing COVID test kits and providing advice on extended expiration dates? I have 3 test kits that the FDA site says expired in December and January, but I don’t know how much updating is done of this part of the FDA site anymore.

I checked the makers’ websites, but they just link back to the FDA. I also don’t see anything on the WHO site, but could be missing it.

No-Yak2588

Anybody waiting over a week to get their free Covid test from USPS. I even went in to reorder it and it said I have reached my limit. Why is it taking so long to get this test.

t57kat

I'm a geezer who gets a booster twice a year. 

Are vaccines updated on anything like a regular basis? Or do vaccines only update when there's a major mutation in the virus?

BywaterNYC

So JFK Jr first week in and...

[Trump administration yanks CDC flu vaccine campaign](https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302906/cdc-flu-vaccine-campaign-terminated)

&gt;The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is stopping a successful flu vaccination campaign that juxtaposed images of wild animals, such as a lion, with cute counterparts, like a kitten, as an analogy for how immunization can help tame the flu.

&gt;The news was shared with staff during a meeting on Wednesday, according to two CDC staffers who spoke with NPR on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, and a recording reviewed by NPR.

&gt;During the meeting, leadership at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases told CDC staff that the Department of Health and Human Services had reviewed the campaign and advised that it would not continue.

Isn't there like a bad flu season in the US atm?

Edit: This is only the advertising campaign, not the entire vaccination program as the NPR title suggests.

AcornAl

I caught it on Wednesday. Showed up on Thursday and got worse at night. This is my third or 4th time getting it. Luckily it hasn’t been severe for me.

It’s basically a cold for me. All my symptoms are In The head/throat. The running nose started today. Cough was bad last night but tolerable and lingers on today.

LosIngobernable

Caught it for the first time (that I know of) this week.

Got back from a weekend away on Sunday, and was noticing a mild sore throat on Tuesday. On Wednesday noticed a slight shortness of breath during a dog walk, but put it down to the dry cold air.

When I checked messenger an hour later, I noticed that everyone who was on the trip had come down with covid, so I tested for myself and came back positive (instant, very dark red line).

Now on the Friday I've got a slight cough and a mild sore throat, but no other symptoms so far. Overall I'm feeling better than on Wednesday and Thursday though. However when I tested today it still came back with the instant dark red line which is frustrating.

So far I've not noticed any mental or neurological symptoms, so I'm just praying that I don't develop those.

Edit: I had three vaccination doses in 2020 due to being a healthcare worker that year, but haven't been vaccinated since then, due to not being eligible for it.

comradejenkens

I got covid for the 2nd time last week.  I tested positive two Mondays ago and I'm still testing positive.  I had it in 2020 and it was mild but so much lasting symptoms for years. Hopefully after this infection I don't have lasting long symptoms like before,  I'm vaxxed and have had several boosters
 This time it's been like a bad sinus infection. 

Designer-Contract852

Wondering if there is any lasting vaccine protection if you last got a shot in Dec of 22? I got my original 3 shots in 21, then a 4th at the end of 22 but none since. All of the shots were Pfizer.

937Asylum81

5 years later and I've got the bug. Luckily, not too sick!

lanternfly_carcass

How many Covid deaths occurred in the US in 2024? I can’t seem to find this information anywhere.

Threeofnine000

Just got diagnosed in 2025. I am beyond upset. I knows it’s been ages but still be careful in crowds

AltAnonAcct

Considering it's been five years, did anybody pick up a habit from that time which you still have?  Our office transferred to virtual which it still is at.  I have a nervous tic of picking at the fabric of my pants, usually at the knees, when it's thicker or crunchier-type material.  I've done it for decades.  Considering I was staying home and wearing primarily sweatpants when Covid started, I wasn't able to pick at the fabric since sweatpant material isn't satisfying.  So I began running my left index finger over my left thumbnail, something I had never done before.  Before long the nail developed a shine to it from all the rubbing.  I still do this today, really constantly.  I like looking at the shine of the nail, and the smooth feeling is satisfying as well.  Currently that index fingertip is ruined from all the rubbing I've been doing.  It's become a hard callous.  

So that's something I picked up and haven't shaken.

IcedPgh

Does anyone else still mask regularly? My wife wants us to because I'm immunocompromised, and I'm caught between not minding, missing being normal, and honestly being scared to stop after all this time. Just wondering if there are any other weirdos out there.

GranolaCola

It appears that the CDC Pulse Long Covid stats got caught up in the "Defending Women" executive order as it had a breakdown by sex that incl. transgender people. The other COVID-19 CDC pages still appear to be working, although many other parts of the CDC site are down (HIV surveillance pages, etc). No ETA on when or if it will be re-enabled.

[https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/pulse/long-covid.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/pulse/long-covid.htm) (404 - page not found)

A few other government sites have also been affected too.

[https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/g-s1-45887/trump-opm-gender-ideology-defending-women-websites-transgender](https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/g-s1-45887/trump-opm-gender-ideology-defending-women-websites-transgender)

Edit: And it's back with all the responses. Maybe some common sense prevailed :)

I'm almost over it now, the symptoms definitely like those of Covid I've caught in the end of 2022, after the abrupt lifting of all lockdown measures. Way out of the league of regular flu.

uniyk

As I read the article, the viral infection has similar symptoms to flu and some of the symptoms of Covid, but has nowhere near the deadliness of COVID-19.

moreesq

Yea our household had what everyone had. No fun. And took forever to recover. And work still giving me the side eye for missing days for this one…

Upward_Fail

I can't find any further source other than 2-3 suspicious news sites...

JohnDoeBrowse

If you search for HMPV news, is only indian news site, no reputable news source are reporting it, and nothing in HK sub.

Extra-Fig-7425

can someone fact check this shit? we need to know and make sure its real. Imma stock up on facemasks again if this is the case. Facemasks and Alcohol.

We need to know if this is true or not so we can all get ready.

Takashi_the_Sigma

HopeBudget3358

It’s spreading due to a very simple reason: no one’s learned proper hygiene etiquette. People still cough and sneeze without covering their mouths, even when sitting at a table with shared dishes. People, especially the older people and men, love to spit on the ground or blow their nose on the ground. People still let their kids dedicate in public, I saw a family let their 2 year old pee on the floor of a mall at a tier 1 city, for some reason not using diapers.  

Viruses will always proliferate easily in China because people still haven’t learned to practice basic hygiene etiquette. It’s gotten better but it’s no where near where it should be.

ScreechingPizzaCat

Is this real? I'm going to buy a new gaming PC if it's legit. Starting the gaming era again.

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Orgiva

Any update on HMPV current situation, post had been since 4-8 days, just to have precaution kindly update, is it really fatal or pandemic?

Beneficial-Elk-3374

No_Bet_3520

PowerfulInflation317

Oh man come on, not again! Give us a break already.

Gromchy

Deathenglegamers1144

We got covid on a plane from London to Miami at the end of October (2024). We tested positive 48 hrs. after the flight. I have a mild bout, but my husband is much worse off than me. We were prescribed Paxlovid by our doctor, we took it for 5 days. It helped, we felt somewhat better after that time. Then 2 days after this my husband had a big return of symptoms. High fever 102.4, very painful rib crushing cough. He has been prescribed yesterday antibiotics and a steroid. Never taken a steroid before. The cough is particularly painful and debilitating. This XEC new covid strain, is brutal for some. So be careful out there.

sovgrateful

Can someone tell me how much covid vaccines are in the US if you get it at Walgreens and you're uninsured? My parents recently paid 201 USD per person to get it at CVS (we do have insurance but we're tourists and it didn't cover it) and out of curiosity I asked the pharmacist at walgreens how much it is and she told me 399.99 USD per person, I asked her twice if she was sure and she said yeah. Is this true? Is it almost double at walgreens?

lucinasardothien

Is there anyone here who has never had covid nor has gotten the vaccine? I’d like to preface with the fact that I’m NOT antivax. I’ve never had the flu shot either (never got the flu). My routine didn’t change much after the pandemic started. The only things that were added to my routine was using hibaclense (antiviral soap) and 70% alc and wearing my mask around pretty much everyone when I left my home until this past May. I don’t even know if it’s worth getting now. My concern in the very beginning was efficacy but I’m not sure if it’s gotten any better. Just looking to see if anyone else has had this rare experience.

NoDepartment3446

Just got the Pfizer booster and have wicked palpitations 8 hours later. Did anyone else have this side effect? 
I’ve never had this happen before with the vaccines, but did have palpitations in July when I had Covid for the first time.

AimForTheBushes84

Is there a best time to get the vaccine/booster? I’m thinking about getting it soon to try and have increased coverage over Thanksgiving and the holidays. Ultimately, though, I’d like to pick the best timing for the waves that will hit. I hope to travel a bit this summer, but I don’t have any plans and it seems like a terrible idea to wait for something that may or may not happen.

I just want to make a good decision.

Dave_W333

Second time with Covid here. Came back to the U.S. from a trip to Europe last Friday 10/18. Started getting a nagging sore throat Sunday, but tested negative. Woke up Monday feeling like I swallowed glass. Tested positive Monday afternoon. Ever since then, symptoms come in waves. There’s the constant runny/stuffed nose and sinus pressure. But sometimes I will feel more energetic for an hour or so, before it puts me on my ass again. The first time I had Covid in 2022, symptoms lasted 5 days and then disappeared on the 6th. im on Day 5 of symptoms now and it’s hard to believe this is going away any time soon. Today may be the worst I’ve felt. For the record, I got the Novavax shot at the end of September. Previously all my vaccines have been MRNA. My husband got an MRNA booster and has tested negative with no symptoms. Maybe it’s still coming for him, just thought that was interesting. Definitely glad I had some sort of protection though. So far no persistent cough or shortness of breath.

lcdocfan

Tested positive October 22nd, shortly after arriving in Germany. Started on Sunday as a sore throat and just feeling kind of off. Next day runny nose and fatigued. Monday night dealt with chills while trying to fall asleep. Woke up in the middle of the night burning up. Nauseated the next morning, and the start of body aches. Since then coughing and sneezing. Some shortness of breath today.

Solo_Act

Just tested positive today. Fever (101), headache (especially near the sinuses and oddly eye pain), nausea, fatigue, sore throat. Feel like I got hit by a truck. Symptoms came very suddenly (fine in the afternoon and sick by nightfall) Sore throat and sinus headache were the first symptoms following by the fever. Be careful out there!

Just tested positive for the first time ever. Fever, terrible chills, some cough and sore throat, and a 2-month-old newborn to take care of 😬

Aveasi

Just tested positive today.
I had fever 4 days ago for about 24 hours. Low fever, but horrid headache.
Now I’m just stuffy and coughing. 
Basically same as I would be with a cold. lol
My mom got Covid a few weeks ago and was SUPER sick for a couple weeks.
She’s over 65. 

It’s amazing how different it can be for everyone

DryInternet6700

Is the current strain circulating in Southern California showing up on rapid tests? Woke up feeling like I got hit by a bus but tested negative. Will test again in a few days but I guess it could be the flu.

stinky_pinky_brain

I got the Moderna Saturday, I got quite cold in that night, and a headache that woke me up early. Only had Pfizer before and only had a sore arm. All good now however. Was able to get the flu vaccine today.

Atomic258

I got the Novavax vaccine on Friday. Every year before this one I’ve gotten either Pfizer or Moderna (whichever was available)

Novavax had *significantly* less intense side effects. With Pfizer/Moderna I have a full-on fever/chills for the entire next day. The day after Novavax I was little tired and had a headache. Was still able to go out to brunch with my in laws. Took a nap after and woke up feeling 100%

ShadowRealmDuelist

Its official, everyone close to me, friends and family, have been infected at this point. I think right now more than ever people are getting it. At least the symptoms for the most part seem a lot less intense than from the people I know who got it a few years ago or earlier.

Sharpes_Sword

In my country (Germany) doctors insist on waiting at least 12 months between Covid vaccinations (or between a vaccination and your last infection) - anybody know if there is a solid medical reason for this? I know that in the US, for example, people can get vaccinated three months after their last infection or vaccination. This insistence on waiting for at least a year seems strange. And I always seem to catch the damn disease before I can get a new vaccination. (I still mask, but I do occasionally see family and close friends at home without a mask, and have gotten infected twice that way, so far.)

Hmpf1998

I haven't been on this sub in a long while!

There's little to no guidance out there anymore, so I thought I'd ask advice on this sub. Every time I've gotten the mRNA vaccine, both Moderna and Pfizer, I felt so sick that night and next day. I passed out several times. In some ways, the vaccine was worse than having covid for me.

I think I should do the Novavax non-mRNA this year. What side effects have been reported for that one?

Is it as effective as the others? Have they updated it at all to be stronger against current strains like they do with the flu vaccine?

I plan to get the flu vaccine the same day. I heard this year's vaccine is not very effective against the strains out there this year. But it's still recommended, right?

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